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Poster: MrMovie Date: Apr 19, 2005 2:30pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Disney & P.D.

I wonder if Warner Bros. non-belief in their old cartoons not being public domain because of it's characters falls under the Lanham Act? I have over 12 hours worth of 1940s classic WB Cartoons that should be PD but probably are not, all because of the character copyrights? Doesn't make sense. HOWEVER, there are some exceptions to this as I've seen some Bugs Bunny cartoons on what is obviously PD produced material. Getting back to Disney for a second.... remember the movie SONG OF THE SOUTH? That film was pulled from distribution, sealed in cement, and buried in an undisclosed cave four miles down at the bottom of an inactive volcano by Disney some years ago. Unless you are one of the fortunate ones to own this on LASER DISC that you bought outside of the United States you can't get it excpet for about six people who are continually selling it on E-bay. One wonders where these E-bay sellers are getting so many copies from? If even Disney want's to forget this film exists then they should let it go PD.

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Poster: mikem311 Date: Oct 3, 2008 3:32pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Disney & P.D.

I found a great Song Of The South dvd at:

http://www.songofthesouth4me.net/

Mike :)

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Poster: mikem311 Date: Oct 3, 2008 3:32pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Disney & P.D.

I found a great Song Of The South dvd at:

http://www.songofthesouth4me.net/

Mike :)

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Poster: FP Date: Apr 20, 2005 1:27am
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Disney & P.D.

A DVD release of SONG OF THE SOUTH has been anounced.

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Poster: MrMovie Date: Apr 20, 2005 4:57am
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Disney & P.D & Song Of The South

Really? Where did you hear and/or read about this supposed release? The last I heard was that Disney refuses to even discuss SONG OF THE SOUTH let alone release the film because of their fear that it could cause a backlash of problems for them and cause Disney to make disclaimers as to the films 'content' although I can't see anything wrong with releasing this absolutely classic film. I read more news items and articles about why it was pulled then I ever read about the possibility that this would ever be released.
You wouldn't by any chance have a link to an article or website that talks about the pending release of this film on DVD?

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Poster: FP Date: Apr 20, 2005 7:09am
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Disney & P.D & Song Of The South

http://www.jimhillmedia.com/mb/articles/showarticle.php?ID=1313

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>>"Song of the South" to go on sale in '06
Jim Hill shares what he just heard from his sources deep inside Buena Vista Home Entertainment. That a DVD of this long supressed Disney classic will finally hit store shelves in the Fall of 2006.
by Jim Hill

I know that it's been a really rough winter so far. But who would have thought that Hell was gonna to freeze over?

"What do I mean by that?," you ask. Well, I just got word that Buena Vista Home Entertainment will be releasing "Song of the South" on DVD in the Fall of 2006.

That's right. "Song of the South." The Academy Award winning film that former Disney Feature Animation head Thomas Schumacher once told Roger Ebert was on "permanent moratorium" has reportedly been greenlit for release late next year. A special 60th anniversary edition that -- thanks to a plethora of extra features -- will try & put this somewhat controversial motion picture in historial context.<<

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Poster: FP Date: Apr 20, 2005 7:11am
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Disney & P.D & Song Of The South

If you can't wait, there's a DVD bootleg available already:
http://groups.msn.com/c8tr7q70murruguaip5ch0hc52/songofthesouthdvdsforsale.msnw

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Poster: MrMovie Date: Apr 20, 2005 8:08am
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Disney & P.D & Song Of The South

I can wait..... hopefully Disney won't change their mind. Thanks for sharing the article.

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Poster: Spuzz Date: Apr 21, 2005 6:00am
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Disney & P.D & Song Of The South

Yay! No guilt trips about going on Splash Mountain!

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Poster: MrMovie Date: Apr 21, 2005 1:35pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Disney & P.D & Song Of The South & Theme Parks & Splash Mountain

I wonder if DISNEY would complain if someone went to all the parks with their video camera and then did a great documentary and placed it in the open source movies. Would that be a copyright violation?!! I've never seen a sign in any of the Disney theme parks that say's WARNING YOU CAN VIDEO TAPE ONLY FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL USE!

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Poster: ridetheory Date: Apr 21, 2005 2:06pm
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Disney & P.D & Song Of The South & Theme Parks & Splash Mountain

Like this?

http://www.archive.org/movies/details-db.php?collection=opensource_movies&collectionid=willful_infringement_mickey_and_me

Disney does consider any photos or video shot in the park to be under their copyright.

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Poster: MrMovie Date: Apr 22, 2005 2:32am
Forum: prelinger Subject: Re: Disney & P.D & Song Of The South & Theme Parks & Splash Mountain & Coppyright Documentary

Amazing Documentary! So, what this boils down to is that everyone, including myself, that set up their video cameras on tripods, at Walt Disney World in Orlando, and filmed from start to finish "Fantasmic" in some way automatically violated the copyright law!! Now, this makes about as much sense as that magnificent filming of the 1939-40 New York Worlds Fair which is PD. Of course, where-in most of the visitors to Walt Disney World do not walk around with broadcast digital video cameras (which is what I had), I know that if I were to take my video of "Fantasmic" and attempted to distribute that I would wind up with more legal problems than I care to imagine. However, the point here is that IF Disney is so restrictive to their intellectial property, then why even permit video cameras inside their parks? The answer of course is simple. They know that video is going to be shown to friends and relatives. Some of whom probalby have never been to either Disneyland or Disney World and it would act as an incentive for those people to go there. This in turn adds to Disney's revenue though gate admission charges (which are slowly climbing to ridiculous amounts). For Disney, a visitors home video is FREE Advertisement for their theme parks. However, if you make a documentary video of your visit to one of the theme parks and then go to sell it, you are violating copyright laws even though what you are doing is giving Disney Free Advertising! Needless to say, I do, up to a point, favor copyright laws because I own a video & motion picture production company and we do copyright everything that we produce. However, there is product that we produce that if used in a manner that would promote the product and increase sales of those products, I would care less as to its fair use by authorized distributors and dealers which would include on-line retailers who want to run clips which is what this documentary is really focused on. Excellent Film.